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  <title>Crossfader and Cueing - ::Ableton Live music software:: - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>john</name>
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    <updated>2009-07-09T00:38:52Z</updated>
    <published>2009-07-09T00:38:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Check out this tutorial, it should show you everything you need to know.&#xD;
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http://www.live-laptops.com/Tutorials/Sequencers/Ableton_Live/Crossfader.html</summary>
    <dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-09T00:38:52Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: But how do you control the mix on the Cue output?????</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Josh Skywise</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2008-06-09T09:55:18Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-09T09:55:18Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Actually that's not true.  Most mixers have the ability to control the volume of the track within the main mix, but not in the headphone cue.  You have a headphone volume knob, and many mixers have a headphone mix knob (adjust mix between Main Mix and Cue), but you would have a VERY difficult time finding a mixer that can control the level of a track within a mix in the headphone cue only.  Are you referring to the headphone mix knob?  If this is the case, you can accomplish this by having more than 2 outputs, and most audio interfaces have the ability to adjust which output comes through the headphones and at what levels.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Josh Skywise</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-09T09:55:18Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>But how do you control the mix on the Cue output?????</title>
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    <author>
      <name>jackie</name>
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    <updated>2008-06-06T22:52:28Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-06T22:52:28Z</published>
    <summary type="html">The problem I'm having is that when you ctrl-click on multiple tracks they all play in the cue output at the same volume. Almost all mixers have the ability to fade (control the volume of each track independently) in the headphones. How do you do this in Ableton???</summary>
    <dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-06T22:52:28Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Azul</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#f6872707-ad49-4f17-9167-43a751064642</id>
    <updated>2007-07-01T16:12:24Z</updated>
    <published>2007-07-01T16:12:24Z</published>
    <summary type="html">good tread people, helped me grasp an&#xD;
almost less vague comprehension of the process...LOL</summary>
    <dc:creator>Azul</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-01T16:12:24Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Reverend Zed</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#27910af2-9c68-49ef-a1b8-e9ba66f5be93</id>
    <updated>2007-06-30T16:10:55Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T16:10:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Ha!! You were probably working on it while I was writing my post!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Reverend Zed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T16:10:55Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Reverend Zed</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#b049de44-b094-4d7f-a081-8466f64296cc</id>
    <updated>2007-06-30T16:02:37Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T16:02:37Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Aaaah! If what's happening on your screen is what I see in my head, you just need to click the solo/cue button next to your master volume control to change the S button on your tracks to the headphone icon for cueing. Then assign buttons - or keys on the keyboard, for that matter, to activate. You can cue tracks individually, or (with no tracks cue-enabled) press the buttons assigned to each cue simultaneously to cue both the active deck and the deck you're bringing in.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Reverend Zed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T16:02:37Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Craig 2.5</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#78c71f7d-1e5f-44a8-9b42-064036918a6b</id>
    <updated>2007-06-30T16:02:22Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T16:02:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Ha! Figured it out. I knew it had to be possible and I was just missing the option.&#xD;
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Click the Solo button above the Cue volume knob next to master slider. When the button says Cue, a button with a headphone symbol appears in each mixer track. Enable the headphone button and that mixer track goes to the cue. Ctrl click to send multiple channels to the cue. &#xD;
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Fantastic!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Craig 2.5</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T16:02:22Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Craig 2.5</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#78244fd2-86c0-4bfc-80c3-00753456ded9</id>
    <updated>2007-06-30T15:50:55Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T15:50:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I'm using a similar setup with four tracks to keep things less cluttered. Then I have two "decks" a piece running into two busses setup with filters, echo, etc. so they're controllable per deck. The busses then run though the master channel. My interface is setup so that the master channel in Live routes to the Main Outs and the Cue routes directly to the headphone output. Since previewed samples in the browser play through the cue outputs, I figured there had to be some way to route mixer tracks to them as well. No cue option shows up in the output drop down though. &#xD;
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The problem here is that I have no DJ mixer and I don't plan to buy one. I'm not a DJ, and don't plan to put a lot of work into becoming one right now, at least not until my album and the accompanying live show are done. I'm just playing around with DJing at this point, so I was hoping to do all my DJing through software until/if I take it up as a serious endeavor.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Craig 2.5</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T15:50:55Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Reverend Zed</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#d1e85b9f-1513-4410-9f1e-04cca34ae6d9</id>
    <updated>2007-06-30T05:05:22Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T05:05:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Ugh. That post was confusing. Most of the time I have everything routed to the master channel and just go out one pair into a single channel on whatever mixer is being used at the club or party. I use a Trigger Finger with three of the vertical faders controlling the volume on the decks, with a pad assigned to each of the cue buttons.  Whenever I have access to a really nice mixer, like a DJM800, I'll take up as many channels as I can and cue through the mixer. For a little while I used an X-Session Pro from M-Audio because the faders had a great feel and it's laid out like a battle mixer, but it looks so much like it's should be called the Playskool My First Mixer!™ that my testicles actually shrank every time I touched it. I also had to reprogram the cue buttons so they weren't sending note on/note off.&#xD;
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To address your original question, I don't know personally know anyone that cues with the cross fader. I have a couple of friends that split their headphones so they have mains in one ear and the cue track in the other. I only use one return that sends to a pair of outs, through my Kaoss Pad, then in through a monitor track so I can pass it through a limiter. I don't know if it's my ignorance or the Korg, but I can't seem to figure how to have that thing on direct without the signal coming back with a high "metallic" ring to it. I haven't tried to figure out if I can create a real effects loop so I'm only bringing in the wet signal. But I clearly digress... it makes sense to me that you can't cue the crossfader.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Reverend Zed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T05:05:22Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Craig 2.5</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2007-06-30T03:09:09Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T03:09:09Z</published>
    <summary type="html">So you're using an external DJ mixer and cueing through it?</summary>
    <dc:creator>Craig 2.5</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T03:09:09Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Re: Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Reverend Zed</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2007-06-30T01:36:49Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-30T01:36:49Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I use audio tracks as virtual decks with each routed out through pairs on my interface, then use vertical faders on my control surface to fade in each deck. I cue the tracks individually, with a pad on the control surface assigned to each button. I frequently have as many as three tracks going at once, usually two instances of the same track with one fully effected (I know, I could route them through dummy clips - I just don't want to). Let's me do some interesting things, I think. I only crossfade when I each have deck going out it's own separate stereo pairs and run them through a battle mixer. A lot of the people I do shows with use the verticals instead of the crossfader, I just started doing it out of self-defense after finding the crossfader taped down with duct tape on too many times. Discovered I preferred it and haven't crossfaded since.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Reverend Zed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-30T01:36:49Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Crossfader and Cueing</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Craig 2.5</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/5e760396-f0eb-45f3-80b8-e31cd3ef3467#57c7d8a3-5731-4b37-9b02-a9a23694288a</id>
    <updated>2007-06-29T20:28:47Z</updated>
    <published>2007-06-29T20:28:47Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Is there a way to route the A or B mix to the cue when using the crossfader? If not how does one go about hearing the other track in the headphones before mixing it in when DJing?</summary>
    <dc:creator>Craig 2.5</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-06-29T20:28:47Z</dc:date>
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