okay, this is kindof hard to describe... but, I was inspired by a recent post about 'reverse reverb', which I've never tried...
I'm wondering if 'reverse reverb' is what I want to do...
sometimes, I hear samples coming into play in a way as if they're being sucked into the track... any ideas about what I'm talking about and how that's done?
I'm wondering if 'reverse reverb' is what I want to do...
sometimes, I hear samples coming into play in a way as if they're being sucked into the track... any ideas about what I'm talking about and how that's done?
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Re: HOW?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 4:10 AMbest to give an audio example, but it's possible that what you're hearing is reverse reverb. are you thinking something like the beginning of david bowie's "fame" but more subtle?
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Re: HOW?
Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:32 AM1.Reverse the sample in an audio editor or sampler.
2.Apply reverb (or delays) of your choice.
3.Return sample to forward playback. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:19 AMYa, I think Brian has it. Also, reversed cymbals are a great tool that you may be looking for. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:28 AMReversing kicks (with reverb) is also effective.
But try all sorts of things, such as reverse delay, etc.
There are so many ways to bend the rules of production. I find that the reverse cymbals get kinda tired if used too much.
Subtlety, creativity, and the playing off expectation is key. Maybe do a reverse cymbal with a gated stutter. Or pause the reverse before the hit, etc etc etc
Just some ideas. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:34 AMTotally agreed. I've only really used them at phrase points. Any more than that and I too get bored with them. They do give that great slurping into action sound though.
I've at times reversed a reverb on a bass kick and set it to as wet as possible and lined it up with the straight kick sound. It wasn't entirely functional for the project, so I ditched it, but it was neat. Gave a bass fluttering slurp and then the bass kick hit upon it reaching the beginning of the reversed effect. I think I'll got home and play with this some more. Fun stuff. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 10:07 AMI used the reverse verb on the kick on I track I did recently called 'hertz donut'.
You can here it at the beginning of the track. I think it happens first in the 3rd bar.
I like the effect it has on making the drums slide around a bit.
www.circusofmind.com/hertz_donut.mp3 -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 11:09 AMYup, that's the sound. Good stuff. Nice raucous (in the rowdy sense) beat there too. I'm really liking your tracks, Brian. -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 11:37 AM"sometimes, I hear samples coming into play in a way as if they're being sucked into the track... "
Another thing you might be describing are filter sweeps.
If you open (or close) a HP or LP filter, it can have the effect of the sound being "sucked".
Its hard to say what you are trying to do without some sort of sample.
(BTW thanks sAro) -
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Mon, February 25, 2008 - 10:42 PM...I didn't really hear what I was speaking about in Bowie's song 'Fame'...
...but, today I was listening to Terekith's downtempo set 'Untied Knot' and heard a perfect example...
it was about at the 52 minute time... maybe a track called 'Underworld' by 'Best Magmu Ever'...
heres a link to Terekith's site and an opportunity to download the set...
sorry, I don't have an easier way to listen...
www.tarekith.com/dj_mixes.htm -
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Re: HOW?
Tue, February 26, 2008 - 9:45 AMListen to this sample of reversed reverb on a crash cymbal and tell me if this is what you are talking about
www.soundsnap.com/node/11569
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 4:08 PMBrian holdin' it down.
Making life simple with technology. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 4:09 PMAnd, Underworld (the artist above I assume...?) does this shit a lot from what I can recall. But they have a quite diverse catalogue.
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 7:54 PM...Thanks, Brian...
applying the reverse reverb to a percussion sound is desirable... but, how does it sound w/ a vocal? That's what I'm looking for... it's kindof like the vocal is coming in on the inhale, with the first note... then it seamlessly blends into the word... Any idea? -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 8:03 PMI think it would work the exact same way.
Just try it out and see how it sounds.
If you have a vocal track, first cut the syllable (or phrase) you want that effect on.
In a sample editor, reverse the syllable (or phrase).
Apply reverb to the reversed part.
Bounce it.
Reverse the whole thing back.
Line it up properly.
Voila.
You may have to try out different reverb lengths/depths to get it where you want it. But it should be pretty easy to get something good.
I have done this with a piano passage where certain notes had this reverse reverb on it. Its a great effect on non-drum tracks, especially if used in a subtle way.
If you get it working well, I would love to hear what you come up with. -
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Re: HOW?
Thu, February 28, 2008 - 7:18 AMBounce = Render to wav/aif/etc...
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