Tribe.net. Local Connections Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#8a8c4226-f903-4fe9-af94-9b42c3b1d9f5 2009-04-16T12:04:31Z 2009-04-16T12:04:31Z

thanks for the post/review! those netbooks have really been looking like tasty morsels for the traveling dj/producer...

Señor Pájaro 2009-04-16T12:04:31Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#1108cc16-1e4d-468a-855d-68b926072ff4 2009-04-16T01:38:26Z 2009-04-16T01:38:26Z

Well, I received the Acer Aspire One today and can happily say that it runs serato just fine from what I have seen. I lowered the default latency by one notch (from 10 to 9) and that was enough to where it feels almost exactly the same as running Serato on my macbook pro. Actually midi was the only thing I felt I had to lower it for because the control Vinyls felt fine even at the default (middle) buffer setting. Well maybe not needle dropping. But scratching, back cueing, etc. felt just fine. 1st thing I did when I took the Laptop out of the box was uninstall all of the crap bloatware that came pre-installed on the system. Then I simply did the common "optimizing xp for audio" steps and everything's good. Oh also you have to go into your display, Monitor settings and uncheck the checkbox that says "hide un-compatible resolutions" so you can set your main resolution to one that is compatible with Serato. Simple as cake. It's funny. I bought this thing to run serato on so I could run ABleton on my macbook pro at the same time but I'm almost considering getting a second one of these to run Ableton on instead. Their so small and portable and just powerful enough apparently. I'm sure you could only get away with a few channels of audio and not too many fx racks in Live on this little system but that'd still be fine for my usage. That will have to be my next test :)

$item.owner.firstName 2009-04-16T01:38:26Z Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#7bd95f5d-8fbf-41aa-8542-a3ef447e8aed 2009-04-05T21:24:16Z 2009-04-05T21:24:16Z

$292? NICE!

Señor Pájaro 2009-04-05T21:24:16Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#91d3ba5d-69e2-4e1e-a3d2-eb178f810edf 2009-04-04T21:03:19Z 2009-04-04T21:03:19Z

btw, I found this "acer aspire one" mini laptop that I think is a perfect candidate for being a stripped down dedicated Serato machine. http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=9196644&oext=1038A&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9196644 It's pretty cheap and ultra portable. I think i'm gonna get it:)

$item.owner.firstName 2009-04-04T21:03:19Z Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#8c959769-b908-45bb-bc21-9334de0252a8 2009-04-02T22:48:44Z 2009-04-02T22:48:44Z

don't worry, i just needed to get it out of my system.

Señor Pájaro 2009-04-02T22:48:44Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#496e741a-40f1-471c-aeb4-63a3c1c19d7a 2009-04-02T22:30:25Z 2009-04-02T22:30:25Z

I don't get it.

$item.owner.firstName 2009-04-02T22:30:25Z Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#fe580511-88e1-46ff-94bb-f428f2fa5b81 2009-04-01T18:15:30Z 2009-04-01T18:15:30Z

maybe if i win that traxource contest you can buy serato box from me -- i don't have usb 2.0, but running serato just fine. anyway, sermon over. i need to get a new laptop myself.

Señor Pájaro 2009-04-01T18:15:30Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#77ec02df-d619-44f9-a9f2-7719522dfe19 2009-03-31T21:13:14Z 2009-03-31T21:13:14Z

My laptop is an old hp with 512 megs of ram, a 40 gig hard drive, and usb 1.0 ports. So yea I'm pretty positive that it won't run it, seeing as the serato box is a usb2.0 standard. Not to mention, the extraordinarily low specs of the rest of the machine. I played out on it with live for years and it was pretty much fine. Untill Live reached version 6. Then that laptop started to choke. Even if I was able to run serato on that machine I wouldn't trust it. Besides, new pc laptops with screaming fast specs are dirt cheap these days. Less than half of the price that I payed for that hp piece of garbage back in the day. ha ha

$item.owner.firstName 2009-03-31T21:13:14Z Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#8425e006-0a8e-4ea3-b13f-5bd0fd38e7cf 2009-03-26T02:22:23Z 2009-03-26T02:22:23Z

don't mean to sound like i'm trying to argue with you, but are you SURE your windows machine won't run serato? i got teased by a friend about my "jurassic" pc laptop on which i've run all versions of serato for the last 2 years (excluding the current public beta.) i should mention when i acquired my laptop 2 years ago it was already old. the only problem i ever had was with some stuttering using the offline player one or 2 versions back. when i updated one of the "bug-fixes" they mentioned was the "stuttering." on the other hand, live sometimes really taxes my machine.

Señor Pájaro 2009-03-26T02:22:23Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#546fd54e-2ee7-4111-85f9-0644e5433e73 2009-03-25T19:25:07Z 2009-03-25T19:25:07Z

Yea I use both as well. But Honestly I have never ran serato on my pc. My current pc laptop is too old and my other windows system is thru Bootcamp on my Desktop setup. I personally have always prefered the way that ableton runs on windows machines though (smooth running machines, that is). I've always felt that ableton is a little bit clunky on the mac. But, what you wrote did just get me thinking about how, by using serato on my macbook pro I am essentially wasting firewire ports. If I was to get a newer mid range pc laptop with xp on it then it could easily be the serato machine and I could utilize my macs firewire ports to run my Ultralite. Hmmmmm...

$item.owner.firstName 2009-03-25T19:25:07Z Señor Pájaro http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#46d77e98-c7b6-490f-aff6-7b312d77c49c 2009-03-25T01:48:03Z 2009-03-25T01:48:03Z

in your 2 laptop scenario i think you have the roles of the mac & pc reversed -- serato is gonna demand a lot less of a pc than ableton (i use both.) run ableton on the mac and serato on the cheapie machine.

Señor Pájaro 2009-03-25T01:48:03Z $item.owner.firstName http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#32381a14-9844-436d-a074-dd586a9451d6 2009-03-24T18:34:03Z 2009-03-24T18:34:03Z

I havn't actually done it yet but I'm replying here because it's been on my mind lately and is something that I plan to experiment with. My vision is to have my serato set up on my Mbp and then another cheap small pc laptop running ableton with one small midi controller like my original x-session or something. The idea of running both on the same computer just seams sketchy to me. Plus, having the two laptops add some backup reassurance in case one of them crashes. As far as using ableton as an advanced fx box I could only imagine doing it properly by running thru a small external mixer, using the send /returns. You could run straight in, but that would not only add a little extra latency but it could also potentially degrade the overall dry signal, which is of huge concern to me (Infact, I stopped using my Korg Kp3 in my previous setup (running direct in) because I noticed how much it actually degraded the un processed signal). Actually, all of that stuff I just wrote, was me imagining the two laptop setup. If you wanted to really go for using a single laptop setup then you could probably get away with running traktor and ableton together. You could attempt to use internal routing with the free app Soundflower, routing the output from traktor into one of live's channels. You might be able to sync the two using os x's Iac or Midi yoke if you're on a pc. Not positive about that though, but I think that traktor does have a midi sync feature. There's a pleathora of other potential setups. Those are just a few that come to mind. I'd like to hear of other people's setups as well.

$item.owner.firstName 2009-03-24T18:34:03Z Baz http://ableton-live.tribe.net/thread/b480db81-b0b0-4207-8100-fba6a7d34b10#a94228f0-fdc5-4cf7-b3d2-eafcee37eefb 2009-03-24T05:34:33Z 2009-03-24T05:34:33Z

So I know this gets asked a lot in various online forums, but I'm curious - who here has used scratching/"traditional" dj software at the same time as Ableton? What have been your feelings, hardware preferences, and setups? What has proved disastrous in terms of cpu usage? What about using Ableton for FX? If there's a great previous thread I'd also be grateful for a link. I know Ableton and Serato made a big deal out of their amorphous "partnership" last fall, but nothing seems to have come of it.

Baz 2009-03-24T05:34:33Z